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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

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  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  defender of truth

  Thank you Phizzy and Maksutov.

  Keep the emails rolling in.. ;)
  
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  "Mediator" not Mediator, "Judge" not Judge... Watchtower word games

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  as much as jesus is not the mediator of mankind but the "mediator" (supposedly a legal term), the watchtower has a similar word game with the word "judge".seems like deborah judged in israel, which, for every one of you apostate or worldly scumbags who don't understand word games, does not mean debora was a judge.

  you see, deborah was a "judge".why is that?

  because she is not listed on a list of 12 judges.

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  defender of truth

  ^^ I sent the above quote to the Royal Commission. Maybe they can use it in the future ;)
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  "Mediator" not Mediator, "Judge" not Judge... Watchtower word games

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as much as jesus is not the mediator of mankind but the "mediator" (supposedly a legal term), the watchtower has a similar word game with the word "judge".seems like deborah judged in israel, which, for every one of you apostate or worldly scumbags who don't understand word games, does not mean debora was a judge.

  you see, deborah was a "judge".why is that?

  because she is not listed on a list of 12 judges.

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  defender of truth

  Debʹo·rah is a prophetess. Jehovah gives her information about the future, and then she tells the people what Jehovah says. Debʹo·rah is also a judge. She sits under a certain palm tree in the hill country, and people come to her to get help with their problems.
  

  www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-stories/3/brave-women/
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

  the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

  i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

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  defender of truth

  BTTT
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  A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

  my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

  in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

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  defender of truth

  Thank you for sharing that story.

  "Advice for those clinging to their captors" may have worked as a title, too.

  We need to bear in mind, though, that not everyone has such extreme circumstances. Some people have healthy relationships with their parents, they just don't talk much about religion and deflect any attempts at guilt or emotional pleas to return. (Or they just go to occasional meetings and 1 hour in a month field circus, and then go home and live peaceful lives with friends and family they have known for many years).

  If you are under duress from abusive family members under the spell of the Org, get out from under their control ASAP. Otherwise you're going to spend your years in misery trying to placate people who don't know how to love you...
  

  Amen to that.

  On the other hand, I wonder if you would have spent your life at least partially under the mental control of the Borg, if not for your mother's abusive behaviour? If you had stayed at home, might you have got baptised at a later age due to peer pressure?

  I know it may sound strange, but if you can find some small thing to be grateful to her for, like being a part of your independence and freedom from this cult, it may help you to not hate her. She will likely go to her grave miserable, you will not. Pity her, if possible.

  At seventeen I left to join the military in order to get away from her and her toxic JW environment.
  

  Early exposure to life in the real world no doubt served you well.
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  defender of truth

  This is the last time I'll say this.. The question wasn't worded specifically enough.

  All JW's believe they are acting as God's spokesmen, every time they preach.

  It wasn't a lie.

  At best we seem to have an example of a GB member giving a misleading and nonspecific answer, to a nonspecific question.

  Then again, asking:

  "Are the Governing Body God's only channel of communication on earth today?" would, now I think about it, have produced a response like: "Well, we are certainly a part of that channel."
  

  Can we move on to a more interesting topic:

  What question would have forced Jackson to admit that the Governing Body see themselves as being the ONLY people on this earth who can interpret the Bible correctly, with God backing everything they put in print?
  
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  Starting to get grilled by parents

  by Anonymous17 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

  i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

  they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

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  defender of truth

  Read this thread too (abiblestudent posted links to his summaries of the book). A real treat for any lurkers afraid to purchase it.. ;)
  

  www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/222735/steve-hassans-books?page=1
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  Starting to get grilled by parents

  by Anonymous17 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

  i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

  they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

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  defender of truth

  Consider reading Steve Hassan's books to know how to deal with them better. COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL has been re-released.
  

  I second that suggestion. Here are some reviews:

  www.freedomofmind.com/Media/bookCombattingReview.php
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

  the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

  i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

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  defender of truth

  The church.. has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said Anne Cossins, an associate law professor at the University of New South Wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.
  

  Least able or willing..

  I wonder if the same could apply in the UK?

  www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/397800005/could-independent-inquiry-england-wales-expose-jw-orgs-child-abuse-failures-how-can-we-help?page=4#/441030005
  
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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  defender of truth

  BTTT

  Is there even one more person on here that would like to send a brief email, in order to help the Independent Inquiry to see that there are more than a few people who are concerned about the dangerous way JW's handle child abuse cases and reappoint pedophiles to positions of trust??

  Please, even just a simple email asking them to investigate the Jehovah's Witnesses..

  (adding a reference or link may not make a difference, but can't do any harm)